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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 980 Questions
« Last post by JMA on April 02, 2020, 02:53:55 pm »
Sorry I said Japan, but its Brazil.... same exact tail.

Also, would pay good money to see a commander with 'restraints' in it.  Think anyone has a pic somewhere!?!


https://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Rockwell-695-Jetprop-980/5719723?qsp=eJx1jbEOwjAMRP/Fc4YUKhDZ6MIIAz9gOQYilTayPVBV/XfSVGJjO713upuBxsH4Y/cpMwRQRqEXOMgo%2BFYIM2ASEnxYh5poqzX%2B5Bv3MxceWP44CO2u9UcHOop1U7mIaHwm4mwcYeNXiSyrYqX6/VyHSmC51Qz7Q%2BExae6xbrBh6mFZvkQvPvE%3D
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 980 Questions
« Last post by SKYFLYER on April 02, 2020, 01:55:27 pm »
"Why yes, I believe it was.  Or at least some secret government operational tool."

Bruce was correct...

I spoke with a friend and he remembered when it was in the service of the FBI and they had altered the window structure to allow for "restraints" used during prisoner transport.

So I guess putting the windows back would be considerable work.

As to the "980" on there I agree that they are way too big and do not go with the flow of the paint
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 980 Questions
« Last post by donv on March 31, 2020, 12:48:17 pm »
The winglets look awful. I can't imagine why they did it that way. I would repaint those right away. Something on the winglets is nice (and frankly, I like having "980" on mine) but that is crazy. The giant "980" on the tail is not great either.

I will be curious how much it sells for in this climate. Or even what the asking price is.

What did it sell for last time?
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 980 Questions
« Last post by Adam Frisch on March 31, 2020, 10:28:56 am »
Looks better, but why put 980 all over fin and tips? Don't get that. Also noticed they didn't reinstate the windows. Strange, I'd though it just be a plug you could remove and replace with the correct window. This suggest they re-did metalwork and eliminated the structure when they removed that window. Very strange - why?
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 980 Questions
« Last post by JMA on March 31, 2020, 09:58:10 am »
Once again Don you called it.
Truly Nolen repainted and for sale again:

https://www.controller.com/listings/aircraft/for-sale/192260777/1980-commander-980

Don't like that version of 980 on wingtip...copying the Japan 980 tail paint scheme.
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Classifieds / Re: 1966 Turbo Commander 680V w. Century engine upgrade for sale.
« Last post by Adam Frisch on March 27, 2020, 02:33:24 pm »
Unfortunately, I think you're right. This is gonna be a very rough couple of years ahead.
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 690A STC for gross weight increase?
« Last post by JimC on March 23, 2020, 03:36:07 pm »
Yep, figured. The first STC didn't restrict it to Alaska, the second one did.
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 690A STC for gross weight increase?
« Last post by donv on March 23, 2020, 02:03:41 pm »
Look at 14 CFR 91.323-- I think that is what those STCs are implementing.
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: 690A STC for gross weight increase?
« Last post by JimC on March 23, 2020, 01:15:45 pm »
Found it! STC SA01073SE.

It's a ramp weight increase for two specific serial numbers of 690A used for survey in Alaska. Only one is still flying.

"Data pertaining to this modification are considered inadequate for duplication in additional aircraft."

https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgstc.nsf/0/91b37c3b8090137486257e4600603cd5/$FILE/SA01073SE.pdf

The STC holder has another STC that applies to more aircraft (690A, B and C models), as long as you're doing F&W surveys.

https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgstc.nsf/0/f2726ef3974f1f2d86257eb30072a81f/$FILE/SA02453AK.pdf
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Twin Commander Turbine / 690A STC for gross weight increase?
« Last post by JimC on March 22, 2020, 11:34:51 pm »
This article:

https://flightlevelsonline.com/2019/winter-2019/looking-back-model-690a-more-useful-load-more-altitude/

mentions an STC for increasing the gross weight of 690As. It's really specific, with a new GW (11,000 lbs) and an STC number (10173SE.)

However, I can't find *any* STC with a number even vaguely similar to that number, nor can I find an STC for TC 2A4 that mentions "gross weight."

Can anyone shed any light on the subject?
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