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Turbine Commander Engines / Re: -10T versus -10
« Last post by Bruce Byerly on January 22, 2018, 12:08:20 am »
The argument which was made was that Honeywell didn't want to, in effect, support the dash 5 (since the -10T is mostly dash 5), which is why they are no longer encouraging the conversion.

This, of course, is contrary to the old argument which was that they were pushing the -10T conversion since they didn't want to support the dash 5... of course, if that's the case, why did they raise the price so much on the conversions as to make them uneconomical?

I think that they drastically discounted the parts required which made the -10T feasible in the first place.  There were some agreements including commuter pricing which made those discounts no longer practical, unfortunately.  Several years ago, the topic was brought up and one of the conversion shops (old factory Garrett facility as I recall) said the pricing for the items required to complete a -10T was something like $456,000 per engine excluding component overhaul and excluding the airframe mods.  I think it?s safe to say that?s more than a burner can and a first stage wheel. So, even with used wheels, it?s very hard to complete the upgrade in today?s environment.  Maybe it?s time for another super 5 - you may be on to something!
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Classifieds / Re: Shrikes for Sale
« Last post by Bruce Byerly on January 21, 2018, 11:59:34 pm »
There are coming soon! I?ll post one up shortly.
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Classifieds / Re: Shrikes for Sale
« Last post by Steve binnette on January 21, 2018, 09:30:56 pm »
What happened to these airplanes?  I am always curious on the market for these.
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General Discussion / Re: Nice Article, Steve!
« Last post by Steve binnette on January 21, 2018, 09:27:19 pm »
Wilson, I just saw your reply from last September!  Sorry it took so long for me to see it.

It would be great to see you and your plane at the next gathering. 

How long have you owned it?  I love the big piston twins, they sound fantastic when they idle by!
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: Refreshment centers the same?
« Last post by kent4142 on January 21, 2018, 04:39:55 pm »
Hi Guys,

Are you flying the 680 regularly now Adam?  The cabinet looks great!

I just got back from Asheville where I have a vacation cabin.  I enjoyed the cabin - but the fun for me was flying up and back.

When is the next fly in get together?  Do we know where it will be?

Kent
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Turbine Commander Engines / Re: -10T versus -10
« Last post by donv on January 21, 2018, 12:33:08 pm »
The argument which was made was that Honeywell didn't want to, in effect, support the dash 5 (since the -10T is mostly dash 5), which is why they are no longer encouraging the conversion.

This, of course, is contrary to the old argument which was that they were pushing the -10T conversion since they didn't want to support the dash 5... of course, if that's the case, why did they raise the price so much on the conversions as to make them uneconomical?
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Turbine Commander Engines / Re: -10T versus -10
« Last post by Bruce Byerly on January 20, 2018, 10:23:34 pm »
Don, I don?t think that?s the case. It depends on the model, but a late model conversion is almost identical to a true -10 and some -10T?s are more ?modernized? than some 511K?s from what I can gather. Most engines had all wheels replaced at -10T conversion. No way to convert by just swapping a first stage wheel.   I believe there will be plenty of support for -10T?s. Your engine shop will be able to give you the details more efficiently than anyone in the training business, I believe. No criticism meant toward the trainer, but there?s a lot more to it.
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Avionics / Re: G600 TXi
« Last post by Bruce Byerly on January 20, 2018, 10:08:43 pm »
Don - I?m waiting on about 4 of the displays now including my plane - no delivery dates known. They will, eventually, be great.
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: Stepping up to old 680V turbine...
« Last post by drwho67 on January 20, 2018, 01:27:29 pm »
Those are small things which will be quickly sorted out. Looking forward to some pictures, and a video!

I second that!
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Twin Commander Turbine / Re: Stepping up to old 680V turbine...
« Last post by donv on January 20, 2018, 11:47:24 am »
Those are small things which will be quickly sorted out. Looking forward to some pictures, and a video!
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