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donv

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Re: Vintage photos
« Reply #255 on: October 17, 2023, 01:47:16 pm »
It's hard when you have that beautiful 980 sitting there!

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« Reply #256 on: October 17, 2023, 01:52:44 pm »
Completely normal. Keep doing it. I sure everyone will agree with me.

Also, send a pic or two of FLP in operation.

JMA

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Re: Vintage photos
« Reply #257 on: February 05, 2024, 12:12:45 pm »
Random Question- why on some commanders at the engine were some not metal all the way around?  I highlighted photo attached for the specific location I am speaking about.  Most are all metal circled the entire way around.

PS  Sad to see a 1000 in museum and not in use.

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« Reply #258 on: February 05, 2024, 01:03:06 pm »
They are all metal, just some of them are painted and some of them are polished. I believe, with fairly low confidence, that when they were new, the -10s were polished and the -5s were painted. So my hunch, could be wrong, is that is a 900 and not a 1000.

These days, many of them are polished because people prefer that look.

donv

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Re: Vintage photos
« Reply #259 on: February 05, 2024, 01:13:12 pm »
It looks like the Mexicans have at least 2 1000s (or a 1000 and a 900) up on sticks... kind of sad. I can understand putting a 680 or even an early 690 up on a stick, but a 1000?

JMA

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« Reply #260 on: February 05, 2024, 01:52:49 pm »
Thanks as always Don-
I had meant to say 'painted half way', not 'metal half way'.  I guess my question is what was the point (or benefit) to paint?  I always wondered the same for the props.  Every time we get them painted (prop stripes) they don't last very long.
Also, you come to my next question; why a 900 and 1000???  Obviously its an assumption the option was there, but I would 'think' it would have been worth it (?) to pick those up at government auction (cheap) bring it back to Byerly and get them up to 1.5 Mill?
The 1000:
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10902034

donv

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Re: Vintage photos
« Reply #261 on: February 05, 2024, 02:02:50 pm »
That is a question for Bruce Byerly. I would think even a clapped out 1000 or 900 would be worth at least $500k or more.

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« Reply #262 on: February 05, 2024, 02:04:27 pm »
Yep, general question to the audience if there are any guesses.
Sad fate, but I guess museum isn't the worst outcome, but assumed some usable life still remained.

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« Reply #263 on: February 05, 2024, 06:43:41 pm »
No 1000 or 900 for that matter belongs on a stick but, you know, you can’t save them all from corrupt and inefficient governments. The frustrating part is all the planes from Iran to Venezuela and Columbia that are sitting around in decay without any mechanism for retrieval.  One in Mexico came up lately.  Those agencies down there just squander assets. It’s a shame.

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Re: Vintage photos
« Reply #264 on: February 06, 2024, 01:32:11 am »
Bruce, do you know which airplane that is in JMA's first photo, on the stick? Usually I can figure it out using Google, but not in this case. My only clue is the painted top of the nacelles, which makes me think 900, but I don't have much confidence in that.

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« Reply #265 on: February 06, 2024, 08:10:29 am »
Love a good mystery, i'll do some digging. 

Another Mexico 980, museum piece now it seems:
https://airfighters.com/photo/274853/M/Mexico-Air-Force/Rockwell-Aero-Commander-695/3963/

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« Reply #266 on: February 06, 2024, 01:16:14 pm »
Bruce, do you know which airplane that is in JMA's first photo, on the stick? Usually I can figure it out using Google, but not in this case. My only clue is the painted top of the nacelles, which makes me think 900, but I don't have much confidence in that.

Still trying to figure out if it’s a 900 or 1000. Out of 28 900’s, a few have vanished into Mexico and SA.  The exhaust is the easiest way but only if it wasn’t converted and this plane seems to have the larger pipes but the straight cut fairing.  So in 5 min, no, I can’t figure it out.

Then you have the serial number swaps.  So a plane could be identified as on serial number and shows up as a different one. As is case with 1000 Sn 77 that is actually an early 900. 

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« Reply #267 on: February 06, 2024, 01:19:22 pm »
Love a good mystery, i'll do some digging. 

Another Mexico 980, museum piece now it seems:
https://airfighters.com/photo/274853/M/Mexico-Air-Force/Rockwell-Aero-Commander-695/3963/

One thing for sure, it’s not sn 96010 like the caption says!

donv

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Re: Vintage photos
« Reply #268 on: February 06, 2024, 01:34:33 pm »

JMA

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« Reply #269 on: February 06, 2024, 01:36:55 pm »
True- Was thinking maybe a typo 95010 like you DonV, but 95010 is showing still active as YV0154???

Another shows same plane with 980 on wingtip, but look at the prop in original pic and nose cone in below, seem very small to me.

https://www.airhistory.net/photo/561937/3963
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