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KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« on: October 27, 2022, 05:08:35 pm »


PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE AUDIO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhaXJhu1O2I

Bruce Byerly

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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2022, 07:41:57 pm »
“That’s the last time I use a checklist” lol

Should have feathered them both.

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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2022, 11:32:02 am »
That plane has the "bicycle chain" gear. I have that. When it breaks...well, you see the result.

As far as feathering - that's what insurance companies are for. The number of planes that ended up short or long on gear incident landings (I can't call them "emergencies") when the pilot does something different to save the engines is astounding. Sure, you might get it right - but it'll be your first time landing in that configuration.

Stop the engines too early? End up short.

Feather the props? They provide a LOT of drag on a KA. You just might end up off the far end.

The NTSB files are full of injury reports from bad decisions with a simple gear failure. If you get it on the runway, nobody will be hurt.
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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2022, 11:34:33 am »
Since the PT6s are not direct drive, I would think feathering or not feathering wouldn't make much of a difference? You are buying a new set of props either way.

Bruce Byerly

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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2022, 12:15:19 am »
That plane has the "bicycle chain" gear. I have that. When it breaks...well, you see the result.

As far as feathering - that's what insurance companies are for. The number of planes that ended up short or long on gear incident landings (I can't call them "emergencies") when the pilot does something different to save the engines is astounding. Sure, you might get it right - but it'll be your first time landing in that configuration.

Stop the engines too early? End up short.

Feather the props? They provide a LOT of drag on a KA. You just might end up off the far end.

The NTSB files are full of injury reports from bad decisions with a simple gear failure. If you get it on the runway, nobody will be hurt.

You’re a better pilot than that Jim. I don’t want the engines running for several reasons.  Once you are over the threshold, it just seems lazy not to feather them.  Unless you’re scared or unfamiliar with what happens on a shutdown of course.  I’ve landed a Commander with both feathered, no issue other than the obvious.  Sometimes it’s better to be an aviator.

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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2022, 11:23:14 am »
Of course, in a Commander you won't even damage the props!

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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2022, 11:45:53 am »
Bruce,

Thanks for the compliment.

As far as my 4-blade Raisbeck props, they spin slightly (30 rpm?) even in feather when the plane is in motion (by design.) So I'm hitting a prop no matter what, and it's moving at some (small) rotational speed.

The solution, as Don pointed out - fly a Commander!
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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2022, 10:37:15 pm »
Eh, this is obviously made up audio for comedy purposes, why is everyone acting like it's real?
Slumming it in the turboprop world - so you don't have to.

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Re: KING AIR NOSE GEAR FAIL (AUDIO)
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2022, 12:43:29 pm »
I think (I hope?) we all know it's comedy and we're just commenting on turbine nose gear failures in general.
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