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Roberto

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680 fl
« on: February 19, 2024, 02:51:14 pm »
hi regarding wing spar inspection is it required on 680 f fl models? if yes whats the average cost and how often is it required.

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2024, 05:54:28 pm »
AD 94-04-14 (SB 208A) for dissimilar metal corrosion does not apply to any 680S,E, F, Fl, or FLP (nor 500A,B, or U). These planes do not use the stainless spar cap for increased strength. The higher gross weight aircraft (and the 500 U(tility) use one or the other style of beefed up aluminum strap.

AD 94-04-13 (SB 90C) for the lower spar flange radius is every 500 hours. It requires removing some of the aft cabin interior to gain access, so it depends on the plane how much work is needed. The SB says 18 hours

680Fl and FLP need to comply with part II and part III which takes a lot more disassembly. The SB says 75 hours.

Obviously, if cracks are found it is a lot more.

AD 98-08-19 (SB 223) for cracked leading edge attachment bracket. Starting at 6000 hours, and every 1000 hours thereafter. It's pretty easy (like 1 hour) for nonbooted, non-pressurized planes after the initial 6000 hour inspection (which requires cutting access panels in the leading edge). Booted and or pressurized airplanes take a little more work to gain access.

The SB mentions 100 hours of work if repairs are needed.

Roberto

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2024, 06:06:15 pm »
ty for info so about 8k for for 680fl

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2024, 02:06:27 pm »
Correction.

I may be mistaken about the 500U, 680FL, and 680FLP. It looks like the late S/N planes (1731-1854) do have to comply with SB 208A. SB suggests 108 hours labor if spar corrosion is with limits.

Every 36 months

Roberto

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2024, 03:03:56 pm »
AD 94-04-13 (SB 90C) all S/N? might be a deal breaker between f vs fl

Roberto

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2024, 10:00:05 am »
communicated with the broker listing 680fl as to spar inspection cost and he was quoted $20k-$50k.

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2024, 10:58:08 pm »
Roberto, buy my 680V turbine instead - no spar inspection ;)
Slumming it in the turboprop world - so you don't have to.

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2024, 01:36:40 pm »
I think Adam's 680V is a better choice as well, unless you have some specific reason for wanting a piston-powered 680.

Adam, don't you need to do a hot section pretty soon? Or did that get resolved?

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2024, 03:48:31 pm »
Maybe he has a fetish for big recips, and turbines are like meh.

Iíve seen that affliction before.

Roberto, is it an off the market sale? Can we check it out?

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2024, 12:09:48 pm »
I think big recips are cool, myself. In some ways, I would love to have a 680F but with the understanding that it is an antique and not a practical transportation option. I'd also need a mechanic who understand those engines!

Roberto

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2024, 12:55:16 pm »
Trust me Adam your 680 has been on my radar for awhile. wish we lived closer would love to do a 50/50 ownership with you. The 680fl in question is N188wm listed on controller. I briefly owned this plane back in 1999 N75ES. I have a ton of pics bringing her back to life.

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2024, 01:29:02 pm »
I have to say that is a really nice looking 680FL! The ad says spar inspection due in 50 hours.

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2024, 01:32:06 pm »
If it wasn't for the spar ad I would pull the trigger.

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2024, 02:13:49 pm »
About 450hrs to the hot section, so not something that needs to be done soon.
Slumming it in the turboprop world - so you don't have to.

Roberto

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Re: 680 fl
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2024, 05:25:19 pm »
Adam can I pay you in crypto?