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Jeff Johnson

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Im Selling My Commander 500s
« on: October 14, 2017, 02:00:01 pm »
Hi Guys!

Well here you go!

Its cold and I need Ice protection and pressurization

a great Bird for sure!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Rockwell-Aero-Commander-500s-/182831193811?hash=item2a91969ed3:g:bYwAAOSwtwZZ4juY&vxp=mtr

Jeff

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2017, 05:05:29 pm »
Looks great! And seems like a deal to me...

Beautiful hangar, as well-- is that at the Bend airport?

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2017, 07:14:15 pm »
Don,

Yep I share the hanger with 3 other planes On the east side of the field. 

The owner way over did it.  Heated floors, Big ass Fan, Office with bathroom and shower. 

Amazing space.  Lucky to have it for sure.




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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 01:19:38 am »
690 will fit in there, I imagine?

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 07:30:34 pm »
Don,

690 will fit for sure. 

But im thinking that bird will be a bit down the road.

Going to go after an Aerostar or 2 and see how it goes. 

We should go fly sometime.  Id love to take a good Twin Commander ride!


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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 12:30:55 pm »
Nice bird indeed. (Though I prefer the 500B) 8)
The total times for engines and props listed, would this be for each engine/prop or their times combined?
What are the enginemodel ?
What were the last compressions on the engines?
When was the last MOH completed and by whom?
When is the wing spar inspection due/when was the last one done?
Last annual completed/due?


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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2017, 02:07:24 pm »
Good morning!

both engines are IO-540-E1B5
compressions @ annual were
Left 75, 77, 70, 76, 75, 72
Right 72, 77, 65, 77, 72, 70
times as spec'd in the listing are current times since overhaul.
total engine time is unknown.
Per Engine Logs
1986 both motors were top overhauled.
2002 both engines were sent to Lycoming for overhaul.
2008 AV center performed the overhaul on both engines.
And here they are now. Perfectly smooth running 290hp Lycomings.
Just flew them yesterday. Great performers.

Also note, these are very lightly used engines. Most missions for this particular commander was as an aerial fire command for wild fires. They would sit @ 7k feet doing 140 MPH and do slow right hand circles around the fires.
That equates to 17MP and 2200RPM on the props.
Engines start true every time and no issues what so ever.
The Airplane have been on part 135 Fire service For a very Long Time And the maintenance has been outstanding.
No known corrosion its a dry country aircraft and or Hangared most of its life. Also remember this. Unlike the 500b, the 500s was completely painted with zinc chromate from the factory, due to the corrosion issues of the 500b.

At annual I had every inspection port open and we spent a day just looking around. Mechanic found nothing
However that being said it is a 1971 aircraft and I and my mechanic may have missed something.

At annual this June, the mechanic @ Butler aviation stated that N39GW was quite possibly the most well taken care of Twin commander he has ever seen. Thats quite a statement for a mechanic.. He was very impressed!
The spar is on the standard 36 month schedule. it will be due next annual. No deficiency's have shown up as of now. And I don't expect them to. Like I said. Dry country aircraft.

If you have any further questions let me know and ill try my best to answer them.

Bruce Byerly

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2017, 10:59:13 pm »
Good morning!

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No known corrosion its a dry country aircraft and or Hangared most of its life. Also remember this. Unlike the 500b, the 500s was completely painted with zinc chromate from the factory, due to the corrosion issues of the 500b.

At annual I had every inspection port open and we spent a day just looking around. Mechanic found nothing
However that being said it is a 1971 aircraft and I and my mechanic may have missed something.
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The spar is on the standard 36 month schedule. it will be due next annual. No deficiency's have shown up as of now. And I don't expect them to. Like I said. Dry country aircraft.

If you have any further questions let me know and ill try my best to answer them.

Jeff,

Who gave you this information? There are fully zinc chromated 500B planes, good history with others, so careful about those kind of statements/opinions.  Also, spar condition does not really correlate to where or how the plane was operated. Just sayin.

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2017, 11:30:49 pm »
Bruce,

Yes correct most of the 500b aircraft have been brought up to the standards of the 500s over the years.  And most are now zinc chromate throughout.  But the 500s was done at the factory when new.  thats all I was saying.

And the spar.  Dry country aircraft.  Like planes sitting in the desert in Arizona, don't corrode.  Due to the low humidity.  My plane has spent most of its life in this type of environment. 

So, for example, stainless steel in contact with copper is less likely to be a risk than when it is in contact with aluminium or galvanised (zinc coated) steel. To complete the cell, a conductive liquid must bridge the contact metals. The more electrically conductive the liquid is, the greater the danger of corrosion.  This is why we have spar inspections.  The metals don't play nice together :)

I don't think a 500b even needs a spar inspection.  (Lucky)

Wasn't trying to step on anyone.

That being said.  Im going to lower the price of my plane.  And see about getting it sold sooner rather than later. 

Id like to get 100k for it but am open to offers. 

She's a great bird!

Jeff
« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 10:13:05 am by Buddabeli »

Bruce Byerly

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 11:03:18 am »
All good!  And that price for a good Shrike is a solid deal. Fabulous planes - so much more plane than a Baron or Piper alternatives. But I understand the calling of higher, faster, and farther. Good luck with it and let me know if you need any help in the midwest ...

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2017, 11:16:44 am »
Thanks Bruce!

I?ll let you know if I need anything

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2017, 07:45:33 pm »
Thanks for the feedback.

I?m interested and would be ready to offer 95K if you?re interested. (bearing in mind she may soon need either an overhaul or at least a top overhaul.)

She?ll be living in the Caribbean where I live.  8)

Where did you say it is currently located?



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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2017, 10:56:09 pm »
I?m located in Bend Oregon. 

How fun would that be :)

So it would be a 2-3 tank fill up to get her there. 

But I would disagree with top or overhaul soon.  These motors run super strong and are smooth. 

It?s a recommended TBO.  But you?ll have to experience it for yourself she?s a great bird.

You will not be disappointed.

I?d like 100k but if 95 gets her sold soon ok 👌

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2017, 11:09:01 am »
Delta 3010

Hopefully you were not too upended by the hurricanes.

I?ll be flying (delta). For the next few hours but give me a call

Or email
818-422-7700
Controlledfusion@gmail.com

I?ll stop the eBay listing as well

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Re: Im Selling My Commander 500s
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 08:41:44 pm »
I just saw this.

Will email you in the am.