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JMA

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« on: November 14, 2017, 02:50:19 pm »
980 with a 96010 CN?
Seems like a waste either way sitting at a museum.
Too much to fix up????


https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8630616

donv

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 06:10:28 pm »
Typo. Should be 95010.

https://www.planelogger.com/Aircraft/Registration/3963/607487

I wouldn't describe it as "preserved"-- I wonder if it was stolen and confiscated by the Mexican police?

PJ is Netherlands Antilles, and HK is Colombia...

980 with a 96010 CN?
Seems like a waste either way sitting at a museum.
Too much to fix up????


https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8630616

SKYFLYER

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Re: Unsure
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 06:39:43 pm »
EL CHAPPO'S backup aircraft 8)

donv

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 06:47:34 pm »
Okay, curiouser and curiouser. My mistake-- this is 95010:

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7940195

Looks much better!

But the airplane in the picture doesn't look like a 1000, to me (in addition to the fact it says "980" on the winglet).

Lots of Commanders were stolen down there, and games were certainly played with the registration numbers. I imagine Bruce has some stories to tell!

JMA

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2017, 08:52:33 am »
Just like me Don- peaks my interest.
Hard to imagine thats the same plane!   Radio antenna on the tail added?





donv

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2017, 12:33:59 am »
You can see it in the background in this picture, and it is unquestionably not a 1000... Almost certainly a 980, but which one?

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Mexico-Air-Force/Rockwell-690A-Turbo-Commander/2353583/L

JMA

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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2017, 12:14:56 pm »
I show x3 980's stolen through the years:
Fun trying to guess Don!

695-95029 Jetprop 980         N9782S - N700MM - N600MM - stolen 16Dec87 Vero Beach, FL, USA; never recovered

695-95048 Jetprop 980         N9800S - N980DT - [stolen 11Dec88 Lebanon, MO, USA; never recovered; canx 02Apr98]

695-95067 Jetprop 980         N9819S - YV-407CP [stolen 13Jan87 Caracas-Oscar Machado Zuloaga International, Venezuela; possibly since seized by Colombian AF

Bruce Byerly

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2017, 09:45:52 pm »
I show x3 980's stolen through the years:
Fun trying to guess Don!

695-95029 Jetprop 980         N9782S - N700MM - N600MM - stolen 16Dec87 Vero Beach, FL, USA; never recovered

695-95048 Jetprop 980         N9800S - N980DT - [stolen 11Dec88 Lebanon, MO, USA; never recovered; canx 02Apr98]

695-95067 Jetprop 980         N9819S - YV-407CP [stolen 13Jan87 Caracas-Oscar Machado Zuloaga International, Venezuela; possibly since seized by Colombian AF

980DT - I remember that one. Detroit Tool.  Nice people. They had a 690B that used to belong to Collins and was a equipped with APS 65 and Efis. I thought I was in tall cotton flying that thing.  Then I think they sold out and the new owner ran it into the ground. The plane sat for a few years and I went down, dusted it off, a flew it out without much trouble.  I sold the plane but can?t recall where it ended up.

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2017, 12:03:24 pm »
Love the knowledge and history Bruce.  Im always fascinated by the Commander stories I hear.
Never seen a cargo door like this?

donv

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2017, 06:57:49 pm »
That was the factory cargo door for the 900. I don't know how many were made, but I've seen one in real life.

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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 04:27:00 pm »

Steve binnette

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2017, 12:30:59 pm »
That?s crazy I have never seen that.  Was there a specific use besides just a general cargo door?

  Wonder if it made it noisier in the cabin.

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2017, 03:52:37 pm »
I saw it mostly used for air ambulance-- it was supposed to make loading a stretcher much easier.

Then Aero Air came up with the mod which allowed the cabin door to open all the way, and LifePort made their stretcher which slides in along a track, and it really became less of a big deal. I did a lot of air ambulance with the Aero Air system, and never had an issue loading a patient into the Commander.

Bruce Byerly

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 02:19:43 am »
I have one in the shop now for Garmin TXi install, paint, interior, etc.  Nice door if you need it to haul an engine or a cow. There were around a half dozen done IIRC.  One with 18,000 hours of Med Evac use out of gravel strips in Canada is now in Bolivia, one in Texas, one in IL now.

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2017, 09:11:55 pm »
Bruce, were those done at the factory when the airplanes were new, or were they done afterwards?