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JMA

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #165 on: August 06, 2021, 08:11:19 am »
Ah silly me, good call Don.  Didn't look close enough on that one.
So would all converted 840's to dash 10's be 980s?

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #166 on: August 06, 2021, 12:48:07 pm »
No. The 980 has different engines (yes, they are all -10s, but the conversions are -10Ts and the 980/1000 are -10-511k). The 980 has 733 horsepower on takeoff, versus 717, and it has single red line computers for engine management.

So there is a difference. I believe there have been a few 840s truly converted to 980s, but that conversion process was much more expensive than just puting -10T engines on, and arguably you didn't get much more.

The easy way to tell a 980 from at 840 by looking at the panel is that the 980 has two "Auto Start Override" buttons somewhere on the panel, usually in a prominent spot. They are large buttons with lights in them, and pretty easy to spot.

JMA

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #167 on: August 09, 2021, 11:39:55 am »
Always a wealth of knowledge, thanks again Don.

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #168 on: September 23, 2021, 12:03:47 pm »
Another 980 down (although a year ago, like its the 80's all over again)...
https://www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash-rockwell-gulfstream-695-jetprop-980-san-jose-la-maquina


Anyone know what happened to the indonesian 980?  I saw it made it to US (can't find reg, but know its NXxxx now.
Or World Jets N981WJ?

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #169 on: September 23, 2021, 04:07:15 pm »
Ouch! That was a nasty impact.

As far as I know the Indonesian airplane is still in the US... can't remember the registration number, although I knew it at one time.

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #170 on: September 24, 2021, 10:48:21 am »
They keep killing all these beautiful longwings! Can't they smuggle in 310's or something??
Slumming it in the turboprop world - so you don't have to.

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #171 on: September 24, 2021, 11:44:41 am »
Adam, my thoughts exactly.  Kill a Pilatus instead!  There are plenty of those around!

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #172 on: September 30, 2021, 09:22:28 am »
N192LH is the Indonesian, forgot we had whole different thread on that topic...

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #173 on: January 05, 2022, 11:28:58 am »
Don/Steve-
980 for sale, PR-DRY.  They are putting 5-blades on their too.  Interested on final sale price if possible when it goes.

https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/210748741/1980-commander-980-turboprop-aircraft

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #174 on: January 05, 2022, 12:13:05 pm »
Looks like a really nice airplane.

If you look in the fine print, it mentions "based in Brazil, all taxes paid." I think Brazil has really, really high import taxes, so it will probably stay there because it's already there and the taxes are paid. So I don't really know what the price will reflect, because of the tax situation and also the general situation in Brazil.

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« Reply #175 on: January 05, 2022, 08:34:38 pm »
Looks like a sweetheart.
Slumming it in the turboprop world - so you don't have to.

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #176 on: January 06, 2022, 10:18:37 pm »
It certainly was a sweetheart at one time but it has a suspect panel install among other things and has been down south long enough to be destroyed.  Not saying thatís the case, but it is becoming increasingly difficult and uneconomical to recover and restore these birds from far away and even locally. The inflated market will help us recover some planes, I hope.

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #177 on: January 07, 2022, 07:50:38 am »
Thanks for that info Bruce, any guess what it may go for?
Why do planes go to die in S. America?  Is there no decent service centers, or is everything suspect so you can't trust anything?

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Re: 980 Questions
« Reply #178 on: January 07, 2022, 05:29:00 pm »
Bruce probably knows more about that topic than anyone, so I'd be interested in his opinion.

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